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LeBron James The GOAT?: The Definition of Greatness pt.1

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In the last 10 or so years there have been many debates in basketball about Lebron’s status among the greatest. Where does he rank among the greatest NBA players of all time? Is Lebron top 10 as of right now? Is he top 5 or even the Greatest of All Time? Feel free to share your opinions in the comment section upon reading.

A few years back the idea of Lebron being the greatest of all time wasn’t a serious thought simply due to the fact that he needed to build and stack his resume. Now that Lebron James is entering his 13th year in the NBA a case can be made that he at least deserves a top ten spot amongst the Greatest NBA players of all time.

To call Lebron James one of the Greatest we must first define what greatness is. Greatness is measured not only by an individual’s skill and physical talent, but also by what I define as “tangibles.” The literal definition of tangible is something that can be physically touched, like an award. In basketball certain tangibles are MVP awards, Scoring title awards, All-Star MVP awards or of course an NBA Championship, to name a few. The most important tangibles are NBA Championships, Finals MVPs, MVPs, and Scoring Titles. Also there are certain honorary tangibles like All-Star Game participation, All NBA first Team, All Defensive First Team, etc.

By setting these standards it is easier to list your top ten Greatest of all time. Lets take a look at mine for example.

Top Ten w/ Lebron James:

  1. Michael Jordan; 6 Championships, 6 Finals MVPs, 5 MVPs, 10 scoring titles, etc.

  2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar; 6 Championships, 2 Finals MVPs, 6 MVPs, 2 scoring titles, etc.

  3. Magic Johnson; 5 Champions, 3 Finals MVPs, 3 MVPs, 4 time assist leader, etc.

  4. Shaquille O’neal; 4 Championships, 3 Finals MVPs, 1 MVP, 2 scoring titles, etc.

  5. Bill Russell; 11 Championships, 5 MVPs, 4 time rebounding champion, etc.

  6. Kobe Bryant; 5 championships, 2 Finals MVPs, 1 MVP, 2 scoring titles, etc.

  7. Larry Bird; 3 Championships, 2 Finals MVPs, 3 MVPs, 1 All-Star MVP, etc.

  8. Tim Duncan; 5 Championships, 3 Finals MVPs, 2 MVPs, 1 All-Star MVP, etc.

  9. Wilt Chamberlain; 2 Championships, 1 Final MVP, 4 MVPs, 7 scoring titles, etc.

  10. Lebron James; 2 Championships, 2 Finals MVPs, 4 MVPs, 1 scoring title, etc.

  11. Hakeem Olajuwon; 2 Championships, 2 Finals MVPs, 1 MVP, 3 time block leader, etc.

By looking at the top ten list you can see that the players are not listed necessarily based on their awards and NBA championships, but by their Greatness. From a brief look at each player’s career you can understand the reason behind their spot on the list (even if your list might be different). Michael Jordan in addition to his overall dominance in the 90s he was considered, by most, the most skilled player playing in the NBA from 1987-1998, even during the period he was playing baseball. Now Jordan is still considered, by most, the best to ever play the game. Kareem Abdul Jabbar dominated in the 70s and continued to help his team win championships in the 80s. He also might be the only player in the history of the NBA who developed an unstoppable shot, maybe besides Dirk Nowitzki. Magic Johnson was one of the main reasons basketball was revived in the 80s his skill and showmanship sold out arenas throughout his career. In addition to that he was not only a triple double machine, but also, in my opinion the greatest passer of all time. The list goes on until we arrive at ten, Lebron James.

Currently, Lebron is at the ten spot, which is pretty good considering the fact that he is not done with his NBA career yet. It was hard for me to put him over Hakeem, but he earned that spot. Lebron James have been known for having the individual skills for years and he has continued to improve his skill. The only thing he was missing was the most important “tangible,” an NBA Championship. Now that he has two championships he no longer be considered subpar or overrated and he has earned the right to be mentioned in the same breath as the All-Time greats.. Not only has he proved to be the most dynamic forward the game has ever seen, he also has a unique combination of strength and speed, not to mention his size at 6’ 8” 250 lbs. And to top it off he now has the accomplishments; MVPs, Finals MVPs, and of course 2 championships. Not to knock Hakeem “The Dream” Olajuwon, he had any accomplishments, too, however, it pains me to say Lebron’s skill and his resume gives him a small edge over Hakeem “The Dream.” Another fact that helps Lebron’s case, is that he was able to take his team to the finals 6 times. Having lost four of them, the fact that he was able to get there counts for something, not to mention his tremendous effort in the road to the finals and in the finals (with the exception of 2011).

Now, this section is for those out there that believe Lebron James as of right now 2015 is he greatest of all time. In one brief statement your wrong. In my opinion, to call the Lebron James we watch right now the Greatest of all Time is disrespect to those other 8 or 9 people on the list, especially the Greatest of all Time; Michael Jordan. However, if you think Lebron James is the most skilled and talented player of all time (your still wrong in my opinion) then you have a debate.

Tune in for my next article about Lebron skills in comparison to the rest of the Greats. As for now, feel free to comment on the article; your likes and dislikes; your opinions about the Greats; or even share your top ten list.

Article By: Hashim Ashimi

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Kobe Bryant: Facing A Reality

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THE INTRO

When I first started watching basketball, Michael Jordan was no longer that guy. Gary Payton was washed up. Karl Malone was ring chasing. John Stockton was taking up space. Charles Barkley and Hakeem Olajuwon were gone. Scottie Pippen and Reggie Miller were shells of themselves. Patrick Ewing was no where to be found, and Clyde Drexler was out. The league itself was vastly different.

When my interest in the NBA peaked, Allen Iverson was dominant. Tracy McGrady and his cousin Vince Carter were stellar. Shaq and Kobe were a hell of a tandem. Kevin Garnett was elite. Dirk and Steve Nash were coming into their own. Paul Pierce and Ray Allen were making noise in the East. And Tim Duncan was just extremely boring. (I know I left off guys like David Robinson and Jason Kidd off but y’all get the point.)

Out of all of those guys though, there was no one I liked more than Kobe Bean Bryant.

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MY STORY

When it came to Kobe there wasn’t anything you could tell me.

You couldn’t diss his game, talk about his personality, or belittle him in any way without me being ready to argue.

In my family and amongst my small group of friends, everyone has had atleast that one specific guy they watched faithfully and would go to war for.

My father’s guy was Magic; my uncle’s guy was Jordan; my mom’s guy was Isiah Thomas; my great grandfather’s guy was a tie between Larry Bird and Julius Irving.

They followed their guys faithfully, like I’m doing now and tried to tell me it’s not going to be a happy ending. I didn’t really believe them until that foresight became a reality.

Personally I thought they were full of s#!% and didn’t know what the hell they were talking about; until I sat down and thought about each player.

MJ’s downfall was him coming back and playing at age 40 for the Washington Wizards. Larry Bird’s career couldn’t continue because his back was out of sorts. Isiah’s career ended after he tore his Achilles. Magic on the other hand retired due to the HIV/AIDS situation. He later came back and wasn’t the same guy.

My guy is in the same boat at this point in time.

A few years back I was in denial. I’ll own up to it. I had just witnessed the Lakers lose in five games to a hungry OKC team (2012) that featured the likes of Kevin Durant, James Harden and Russell Westbrook. In response, I looked for excuses to help Kobe out.

The thing is, there weren’t any.

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THE OBVIOUS

In that specific series, Westbrook was tearing him apart, Harden was giving him buckets, and Durant was giving him fits with his length making it hard for him to score. As a matter of fact, James Harden was playing him tough defensively as well. The whole series in general wasn’t pretty. Kobe couldn’t get to his spots, he couldn’t contain anyone and he was a step slow.

That series against OKC ended a four series stretch of Kobe struggling. Against Dallas in 2011, he struggled against Shawn Marion and others from that championship team; losing 4-0. The series prior to that, he struggled against Chris Paul and his no help Hornets; winning 4-2, and in the series against Denver prior to the OKC matchup, Kobe struggled against the fast paced Nuggets. That series went the distance 4-3 and was more about Andrew Bynum.

That series against OKC ended his Postseason career.

At that point in time, the writing on the wall was very clear to everyone else outside of me, Kobe was in his decline.

That offseason he participated in the Olympics where he was out of place and out of sorts. It was as clear as day that he didn’t belong on the court with a few of those guys. It was so obvious to the point where Coach K was reluctant to play him in certain stretches.

Even with the putrid performances in the Olympics, I still believed. Especially when the Lakers landed Dwight Howard and Steve Nash that same offseason.

When the those trades first surfaced, I was as hype as anyone. I thought Kobe would be rejuvenated and eager to play (as he always is) and I started stating a lot of other things that you generally say when a player has lost it.

But again, I was over hyped and I continued to look past the new Kobe’s obvious deficiencies in skill.

REALITY SETS IN

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During that season I wrote an article (Are You Talking About Kobe Bryant) talking about how Kobe was better than ever and stating that he was beating Father Time. From a numbers perspective I was right, but from a physical standpoint he wasn’t getting the same looks or shots that I was accustomed to seeing.

After working hard, all season long, to get the Lakers into the playoffs; Kobe’s Achilles popped days before the postseason.

I couldn’t help but shed a tear when ESPN aired his injury statement. I knew his best chance at getting ring number 6 was gone. And I also knew he was never going to be the same again.

When Kobe said he was going to comeback better and defy the odds I regained a slimmer of hope. I thought that because he was determined and hungry along with the fact that he loves to prove people wrong, then he would come back elite.

I was wrong…..

In the 2013-2014 season, after playing in 6 games Kobe broke a bone in his knee. All I could do was throw my hands up and accept it for what it was….Father Times never loses and Kobe is no longer Kobe.

He was just K.Bryant from that point on. The guy who played in six games and averaged a measly  14pts, 6ast and 4reb… No longer special.

I, as I’m sure many Lakers fans did, sulked over that demoralizing season. The Lakers were bad. Kobe was gone. What do you do now..

The NBA as a whole became unfun for me. I truly wasn’t ready to face the truth and I also didn’t have anyone else to cheer or root for. I was just uninterested.

After the season concluded and free agency along with the draft went by, I finally got over my depression. I had heard that Kobe was looking better, more fit, slimmer, and healthier.

I sat and pondered about Kobe and his recent years some more and decided I’d give it one more go. He had just turned 36 and basically had a year off.

With 36 being a fairly decent age and him having a year off for rest and to get healthy; I felt he would regain his old form…. Dumb I know.

A month or so before the season started, ESPN produced their yearly NBA Players Rankings. At first glance I was furious at how wrong they did Kobe by placing him at #40 on the list.

Guys who hadn’t accomplished anything thus far in their careers (Love, Wall, Kyrie etc) were ahead of him and I didn’t understand the reasoning until the season actually started…

This year Kobe was officially washed up. He would chuck up shot after shot. Committ turnover after turnover. And he would also get beat off the dribble damn near every defensive stance….

I mean he still had the same “I’m gonna come at you” mindset as he always did, but his ability just wasn’t anywhere close to prime Kobe.

After a series of minor injuries and players, as well as pundits, speaking out about his current style of play; Kobe became more of a facilitator.

That role suited him more since he wasn’t capable of dominating the game from a physical stand point. By using his IQ and unique passing ability he was able to prolong his season and delay the inevitable injury that was soon to come…

On Thursday, January 22nd, Kobe’s season was over. He had torn his rotators cuff in a game against the Pelicans the day before…

Three straight seasons…. Three straight season ending injuries…

TODAY

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As much as I hate to say it…. Kobe is done…

He can no longer stay healthy. He can no longer dominate games for long stretches. He can’t keep up with anyone defensively..He’s no longer that guy.. And the old guy won’t ever be returning.

Kobe’s mileage finally caught up with him: All of the long seasons that resulted in Finals apperances.. All of the playoff runs that resulted in 3rd and 2nd round exits…The hardwork he put in trying to comeback from injury… Playing in the Olympics. Everything.

ESPN was accurate when they declared that 39 players were better than Kobe. I was just too blind to see it.

Now opening my eyes I see how Rose, Bledsoe, Wall, CP3, Westbrook, Lawson, Rondo, Curry, Kyrie, Lillard, Dragic, Lowry, Parker, Beal, Ellis, Butler, Klay, Harden, DeRozan, Wade, LeBron, Durant, George, Leonard, Melo, Dirk, Love, Randolph, Griffin, Bosh, Aldridge, Davis, P.Gasol, M.Gasol, Dwight, Cousins, Noah and a few more are all better players at this point…

Now that the word is in and we know Kobe is out for nine months, we have to ask ourselves: Was that his final game?

He’s under contract for one last year after this season.. The Lakers are tanking and no one seems interested in joining a rebuilding project. I mean why should he return? He’s the 3rd leading scorer in NBA history. A 5x-NBA Champ, an MVP and is universally (peers wise) regarded as the ”Best Player” of his generation and has been deemed as the second best shooting guard to ever play the game… There is nothing left for him to prove at this point that will have any significance on where he places in NBA history.

REFLECTING BACK 

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Kobe’s demeanor and personality wasn’t liked by many.

People didn’t like the arrogance and cockiness that was coming from a sidekick (to Shaq) who wanted to be like Jordan. They would often ridicule his ambitions and aspirations as he was nothing more than a lesser version of the original. And they would also belittle his game by saying he was a ball hog and that he couldn’t pass.

It was just too soon for someone to come in and be the heir to ”His Airness”.

People often cite Kobe for piggy backing onto the likes of Shaq. They’d state that Kobe wasn’t doing anything and Shaq would do all of the work; when in reality Kobe would be the one to close games and facilitating making sure everyone was contributing. Those minor details will forever be overlooked because of how Shaq dominated the Finals’ boxscores.

By tying in the attitude factors, Kobe’s quote on quote ”Piggy Backing” on Shaq, the fallout between him and Shaq, and Phil Jackson’s quote on stating how he was ”uncoachable”, you can see why people hated Kobe so much. Throw in the rape charges and loss of endorsements and you’ll begin to see why Kobe’s fan base is a bit lackluster.

Unlike Bird, Magic, LeBron, Durant, Jordan and Doc.J, Kobe’s fan base is much smaller. Allen Iverson’s fan base may be greater because of his impact on to the whole NBA landscape.

Kobe is the NBA’s version of Tom Brady, both great players, but disliked because of their personality and accomplishments.

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ACCOLADES 

Even though his career may not fully be over, (it needs to be) he accomplished everything he should have. (Outside of two more MVPs and a few more scoring titles)

2x Olypic Gold medals

25x 50pt games

5x 60pt games

Slam Dunk Champion

MVP

2x Finals MVP

2x Scoring Champ

5x NBA Champion

9x First Team All Defense

3x Second Team All Defense

11x All-NBA First Team

2x All-NBA 2nd Team

2x All-NBA Third Team

17x Allstar Selections

4x NBA All-star Game MVP

All Rook 2nd Team

2nd Most Points in a game (81pts)

3rd All-Time Points Leader

2x Best NBA Player ESPY Award

Numerous Lakers Records

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CONCLUSION

Coming back shouldn’t be an option. He’s done enough to make a claim as a Top 10 player of all-time. The only thing he should do is accept the reality for what it is…..His time is done. Y’all have accepted it, I’ve accepted it and now he needs to accept it.

No one beats Father Time

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Ryan Fort

Twitter: RyanDFort, Fortonsports Inc